Ludvig Kennberg (Ghost)

 

Ari Gold chats with Ludvig Kennberg, recording drummer for the band Ghost

Transcript of INTERVIEW WITH Ludvig Kennberg on Hot Sticks Drum Show below.
Plus, see more about Ludvig Kennberg on the “Adventures of Power” Official Site.

Ari Gold

Hello, hear me? I can Yeah. Can you hear me?

Ludvig Kennberg

Yes, perfect.

Ari Gold

I'm good. You're, you're on another continent. I'm in New York.

Ludvig Kennberg

In New York.

Ari Gold

Where are you right now?

Ludvig Kennberg

I'm in Linköping Sweden , where I was born . And I'm actually in the house. But my parents house. Okay. It's my dad's birthday today.

Ari Gold

Happy birthday to your father. Yeah, I've actually been to Linköping . Yes, I have. I know. opare That worked for my half sister who lived there. And I went and visited at one point and, you know, but to see the world. So very, very happy to be talking with you. You're strangely mysterious guests. Because you've been part of a mysterious ectoplasm for a while now. So, you know, I'd love to talk with you about how you, your voice as a drummer, your voice as a mysterious drummer. And how you you know, express yourself artistically both as a person for hire, and then also in your fairly to me, Zen and Zen form of playing when you're playing your own music. So shall we talk a little bit about ghosts? Are we allowed? Us?

Ludvig Kennberg

Yes, we are.

Ari Gold

So, I mean, one of the things that I find so interesting about that project, you know, obviously the the way that the anonymity of the live players, the sometime in, in an ad of the studio players curious to know, you know, are you creating a sound that that then getting imitated on the road? Or how do you have a relationship with the live players who do what, you know, your tracks that you've laid down? What's that? Like?

Ludvig Kennberg

No, I don't have a relationship to the to the live guys that are the live drummer. But me and Tobias yes, we, when we work together in the studio, we I have some ideas and he has some ideas, and then we try to work things out. And then he, on the when he's doing a new tour on a new album. I think he wants it to be like the album. And then, you know, after a couple of years, you want to change stuff, even if, like live versions and stuff,

Ari Gold

Right? Because what you know, your groups are so pocket, you know, there's like, a lot of drummers who you know, show off a lot and I've noticed something about your drumming that like at first it seems really simple. You know, seems super simple, right? People? Oh, that's easy, but then you like listen more carefully. You're doing a lot of ghost notes. Can I take those notes about ghosties? Yeah. Yeah, but you know, you're doing a lot of subtle things that are not flash, but they are one of the reasons the pocket is so great. And one reason those songs are able to I think, you know, crossover to the, for lack of a better word kind of mainstream audience that like, you know, it doesn't sound like musicians trying to get attention. But as you're courting the song is that something that you're consciously doing with him that you do you do more with him? And then you might do on your own projects? Or

Ludvig Kennberg

I tried to do I try to play what the whatever the song needs because I don't if if if I'm playing on a project where where the song needs like a lot of drums and a lot of fields and flashy stuff. I'll do that but I like more to play simple. And to let the other instruments in on the songs. Yeah. I think that's my A way of thinking of music overall. So when I do my own stuff that I've been posting on Instagram and a CD in my I have a tiny studio at my house where I create stuff, and then I go to the place where I record drums. And I bring it there and then I just didn't. It's just improvising drums. So all the clips on on that I posted on Instagram is is just, that's me. Improvising. Right. Yeah.

Ari Gold

But, like, you know, something, I was watching something you did, I guess last year rehearsal space, right? For an example. Like, you know that to me, you know, one of the things that was interesting, you know, how musical you're playing so simply, but musically, it's almost like you're playing a piano, but as drums. Yeah. Using using the kit. I mean, it reminded me I did, I went in to talk with Terry Bozzio. At one point, who is, you know, more sort of, I mean, he's obviously extreme in terms of the flashiness. But the similarity that I saw between you and him is that it feels like you're using the different drums as different notes. You know, you're not like trying to show off your latest, you know, exercise.

Ludvig Kennberg

I don't have it, I can't show off any exercise because I never practice. You only create. Yeah, totally.

Ari Gold

Don't practice. Is that true? Yeah, I never practice. So that's interesting, because some of the guys I talked to, you know, it's all about practicing. And they're like, hours a day of, you know, they see something even like, on Instagram that some, you know, some Instagram drummer has done where they like figuring out like, some complicated subdivision, you know, some strange time signature, and they'll spend all day practicing. And they're like, Yeah, you got to my job as a drummer is to, you know, stay ahead of the curve on all the cool new licks. That's a very different philosophy than like, to be in the pocket of song. You know, improvising?

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah. But I think I practice like, mentally for, can you say that? Yeah. Because I think about grooves in music, and, like, tiny synth steps and, or harmonies or something. Stuff like that. But I kind of practice, but not in a in a, in a real like, drama. I'm not like the, the I've never been like the drummer that practice and try to learn, so I don't think I can do like a medieval thing correctly. I just play.

Ari Gold

That's why your relationship has sustained with Tobias all these years, and you know, because you're not sort of pushing. You're pushing up pushing, like, an agenda musically. Or, like, what's what? How do you guys relate in in terms of that, you know, like, because you're not showing off? And that's one of the things that's great about it, it's like, you create a foundation, which is what drums, you know, traditionally would have been?

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah. It's always, when he, when he calls me to play drums on his, on his tracks. I'm always pretty nervous. Because since I don't practice, like, Oh, I'm not gonna make the I talk to my wife a lot about it. And she's like, Oh, you're going to be fine. But it always turns out, because when it comes to to be as I know, he knows what I can do. And I know kind of what he wants. Sweet. It's just, it's just working when when we are doing stuff together. And then maybe I can see the first two days of tracking is more like a practice. thing. So the first two songs we do with like the practice songs,

Ari Gold

he tracks on his first drums question.

Ludvig Kennberg

And no, he does the demos with the producer often. And then he sends me the demos and then I can rehearse a bit at home or I can.

Ari Gold

So it's like, he demos the track with like a click or a drum machine or something. Then you come in and you create the groove, and then it goes back to him to build on top of that again, is that the process?

Ludvig Kennberg

No, no, we're always in the studio together. Okay, okay. So like the last I wasn't on the last album, but the album before that Prequelle . I went to Stockholm for two weeks, and we were together. And I lived with a producer in an apartment

Ari Gold

On the Record. Do you have a favorite? Right? Yeah, Faith. What? Why?

Ludvig Kennberg

Because it's Groovy

Ari Gold

Groove. What your favorite because of your group because of the song, are they? I guess they're all integrated now. Right? Because you think

Ludvig Kennberg

I like the groove and the feeling the heaviness and like the the the tiny breaks are not like, I don't know how many counts. It's just that it's just a feel all those breaks. It's just you have to feel them. And then you like, getting to the song again. I liked that song a lot.

Ari Gold

Has there ever been a discussion of you playing live with them?

Ludvig Kennberg

Yes But said no.

Ari Gold

You say no. Yeah. Because you just don't want to deal with the craziness of touring.

Ludvig Kennberg

All like the first when we did the first album, he wanted me to play live. But get the ghost thing at that time. So I think that was a bit like, no, I'll just do the album and then we'll catch up some other time. But then it all like so my friend actually. My friend Axel home Gideon is a great drummer. He was the drummer on on the first tour and the second album, and did tour with them until the third album. And then when so he did that first thing and then I saw this whole, just the ghost. The band just exploded over. That was a bit sad. No. No, I'm just I've always been happy for them. But then he asked me again when we did the third album because I went to LA to East West studios and track drums for milli watt. And then he asked me again and then but I said no again.

Ari Gold

Even though even though you kind of regretted it for a second then you said you this is your your mantra as you're gonna make him beg for it. The 40 years.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, no, I don't know. I don't think it's just the whole touring thing. I love to create music and I love to create sounds and I love to make weird noises. Like, I've been recording shelves at my home studio. We're like looping stuff and I like to do

Ari Gold

IKEA shops. Yeah, they are IKEA. Yeah. It's it's your national pride.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yes. And meatballs. Okay.

Ari Gold

So you use the meatballs, put the meatballs on the tip of your sticks. And then Exactly, exactly. Yeah, I mean that there's there is the kind of like, I mean, I think about the drummer composers who think musically like that, you know, you know, Stewart Copeland also comes to mind. I don't know how if you who influenced you as drummer, unless you're the kind of drummer who were only influenced by violinists in which case, which violinists introduced influenced you, but But yeah, who were you inspired by like as a as a 12 year old?

Ludvig Kennberg

And I would say, Oh, I have to say my, my brother was a big Dave Matthews Band fan. Really? It was listening. Yeah, he loved the Matthews Band and he loved the band called Blind melon. And he and Pearl Jam and stuff like that. And Soundgarden. I think that Carter Beauford. That's his name right? From the Matthews Band. Carter. Sorry, he was he was an inspiration to me when I when I He inspired me to play flashy stuff when I was a kid. And then Yeah, some I mean, Burnham and all those cool guys, you know they are, there's a lot like, like for the last like two years I've been really inspired by by piano players you know, like the, the pianos where you have filled strips sounds like really dark and so. And people that can really play those that with a lot of reverb on and they make some cool rhythmic stuff sometimes on. And I've been listening a lot to that I bought some like sample pack thing with that kind of I use it all the time, when I'm bored.

Ari Gold

You make your own samples around the house.

Ludvig Kennberg

No, I make I use both samples to those kinds of samples to create the same kind of vibe. That was,

Ari Gold

you seemed like the kind of person who could like go out into the woods, and like tap on a tree, tap on a branch, poke an owl in the nose. And sample that way.

Ludvig Kennberg

Absolutely. Me and my daughter actually, there's a tree quite close to our house that we brought some drumsticks and we played that tree wood just a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, and you and my favorite sound is we have a we have a summer house, like our way. And we've had that since I was a little kid my family. And my favorite thing to do there is throwing like tiny rocks into the woods. And then there is like a big echo from the forest. When you sound so weird right now.

Ari Gold

But this sounds to me like you could compose the whole kind of Symphony using those towns. But it seems like this could be your next project. What is your project besides what we're suggesting right now,

Ludvig Kennberg

my next project I'm working on. I'm working on my vocal sexually. I've always been singing a lot. But for the last two years, I've been working on songs where I play everything and I sing. And that's really hard, but it's really fun. And it's so amazing to make it. Harmonies that's the best thing. It's even more fun than playing drums right now, I think

Ari Gold

to harmonize with yourself. Yeah. Are you writing lyrics to or doing like? Esoteric sounds?

Ludvig Kennberg

No, I tried to write lyrics. I'm not good at it. But it's English. In English. Yes.

Ari Gold

Do you want to do you want to throw down a little couplet for us?

Ludvig Kennberg

Right now?

Ari Gold

Right now? No. All right.

Ludvig Kennberg

I can I can I, I hopefully will release it before the end of the summer.

Ari Gold

Okay. And when you like, are you putting stuff out on you know, on a label or on Spotify or anything like that? Are you just are you putting it on YouTube? But what's, what is?

Ludvig Kennberg

I don't I don't have a label. But I have some friends that can help me. But it will be on Spotify. Okay, okay, stuff like that.

Ari Gold

Well, we'll promote it. What will promote it when you if you want to be promote? You seem like the kind of person who might not care if it gets promoted. But we will if you want us to.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, I really want you to promote it.

Ari Gold

And are you know if you're doing anything with ghosts in the works, or is that always a mystery until it happens?

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, that's the mystery until it happens. Right now he's on tour and he's doing all that. You never know. He might call me in a couple of weeks or a couple of years. Yeah.

Ari Gold

Well, it sounds like I can imagine being in the studio with you would be a low stress situation. Because your vibe is I think as a player, it's so pockety but also, you know, your your countenance right now is very calming. I can imagine like, you know, if you're a composer performer like him and you're in the studio and you're trying some stuff out, you know that you're not going to get any You know, kind of attitude from you, I would imagine, to some, some, you know, I've been in recording studios with musicians where they're, you know, they're coming to lay down one track, and you're doing more than that, but someone might come in to lay a little thing. And then suddenly, like, you realize that half the time you're spending, trying to just manage their ego. I mean, I had a contract I was doing my brother brought in a really great musician who we both admired for many years to do a track. I'm not going to say what instrument it is, because somebody could figure it out. Maybe but but we were so excited to have him in the studio. And then we were like, these are the, these are the formalities that are kind of the themes of the movie, and we want to, you know, can you play these four and then start improvising off of them? And then he said, even though he'd come into play, the compose music, he said, Well, you know, why not just play the melody? Like it is okay, we want you to improvise. Like, yeah, but I don't want to hear the melody. Like, okay, but you, you have to hear it, know what the theme is. And it became kind of a miserable couple hours. So, you know, you don't seem like that type. That's my

Ludvig Kennberg

No, I think I'm I'm quite easy to work with I think. And I, I, you know, I'm, I can't just, I can't be stressed. I'm always relaxed, I think.

Ari Gold

Okay, but your, your favorite my mentioned your favorite track on the on the last record was was fate, which is the, maybe the most mentally of the tracks, you know, some of the stuff is has a bit of a pop flavor these days, and goes, I'm gonna say, and that's, that has a bit of a more of a metal heritage. Do you have a metal heritage as a drummer? Is that why you like playing that track?

Ludvig Kennberg

No, no, I just, I just like the vibe. I just have that song. But I don't see myself as a as, like, mythical guy. Or I don't listen a lot to that music. I used to do that. But now I'm more. I listened a lot to to jazz and stuff. Like that. It's my go to. Lately I've been listening to what's his name? The drummer mark. Giuliana. Is that his name?

Ari Gold

Oh, no, sorry.

Ludvig Kennberg

He has to Jeff Quarter. Quarter that

Ari Gold

Ah, you're listening to like current jazz? Yeah. Okay.

Ludvig Kennberg

And I listened a lot to, you know, the basic, his album morning face. Because it has jazz influences now? No, because it's, it has some soft influences. That was not the jazz part.

Ari Gold

Okay. Cuz I talked to Alex Skolnick. You know, the guitarist for testament, but also an Alex Golden Trio that does like, very, you know, kind of high technical jazz. But I kind of like when I see people who play hard music also playing jazz because it's, you know, I think the average fan doesn't realize what a synthesis there can be between those forms. Do you think it's going to influence your playing that you're listening to? to jazz? Somebody's saying? Yeah, Mark. Giuliana is helping us get our spelling right. Thank you, Juliana.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah. That's the thing. I just I like to listen to it, but I can't really play it. I might have to I can, like put in some jazzy vibes sometimes on a ride thing or, but I can't really play like the traditional traditional jazz. But I've tried to do like to knock a drum kit. Like really high in imprinted in Vienna. Adjust drummer, but it doesn't really work.

Ari Gold

What what kids do play?

Ludvig Kennberg

Oh, hi. I have a lot of different Kits.

Ari Gold

Do you have a Ludvig?

Ludvig Kennberg

No, I actually don't

Ari Gold

do you realize that getting one could be good for you because it's your name and that might be a you know, might give you a nice sense of ownership like when I film something and I'm shooting with an arrow flags and my name is Ari. You know, I feel a little bit like I'm taking care of.

Ludvig Kennberg

But okay, issue that they should have. They should have hooked me up. We should do something with love we

Ari Gold

but what are you? In reality?

Ludvig Kennberg

I play I play a lot of differently. I have a think I have any new drum. Yeah, one new drum that a guy made me. And it's what I wanted it to be like an old drum. So it's a new drum sound like an old

Ari Gold

greeting to sound jazzy.

Ludvig Kennberg

That's the beefy drum. It sounds really really low. It's the kind of drum that you tune both of the heads from from the top. What is that you made?

Ari Gold

What does that do to the sound?

Ludvig Kennberg

I think I don't know actually. But But I just think it's, it's easy that that drum is really easy to get like really beefy and it's, it's easy to tune low. So that's my my like, when I want to low snare them. That's my right that's an that's a no name drum.

Ari Gold

But is that a local in Sweden who made it for you

Ludvig Kennberg

guys in Stockholm? Oh, so when when I was in Stockholm recording we did a cover a Metallica cover with me and Toby? Yeah. So he came by the studio with this narrow when I was there. At that studio. Yeah, so you guys stuck with me for me? That's cool. Yeah. Yeah,

Ari Gold

yeah. Okay.

Ludvig Kennberg

But, I only had like, really? vintage stuff. It's it most of it is like, nothing like I have a I have a red sparkle kid. And the brand is called drum mate. I think it's like from the 60s and then I switched out some some some hardware on it but it sounds really really good. And I use that all I use the toms all the time. Then I have like some concert Tom's like single head. Okay, yeah.

Ari Gold

So when you went out let's say to LA to do Millie aura, you record the whole record out there? Yeah. So did you bring your esoteric kit or do you work with local drums?

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, no, I we had a drum tech. You know, Ross Garfield. Okay. The drum doctor is the drum doctor. He is. Okay. So he was my drum tech on that album. So he brought like, I use the old Gretsch ISIS thing? Yeah, sounded really really, really good.

Ari Gold

Yeah, it's funny because like some of the drummers as well like the, you know, some of the more technical guys were like, I would never play someone else's kit. I couldn't play someone else's kit. I mean, I'm not a professional drummer. I'm a I'm an Air drummer. So yeah. issues to work through but but I kind of liked the notion that you know, if you go out to record in another country, you just go and it's you you're bringing your soul to it. You don't have to have all that gear. I mean, obviously you get a great job doctor to make it sound good but you're not so attached to your your gear as though that's who you are or who you are, as is the is the group and clearly you're kind of respect for the music as a whole. Rather than drums isn't my drugs. I make sure my drums are loud and cool and people notice them. Someone says I'm pretty satisfied about the drum kit I bought from Ludvig Okay, someone's giving us that that's paralyzed Starr says the bass drum was used for the recording of OPA suppose

Ludvig Kennberg

Oh yeah. Yeah.

Ari Gold

So shout out to that then. So you you don't mind having one drum from one manufacturer or another from another assemble that you know maybe there's a tasty there's a Zildjian there's like something that you know, like a tin can do. And then then a piece of, you know, someone's old car hubcap. That was good care for you. Right? Yeah, you can

Ludvig Kennberg

do something with that. But I do play Sabian cymbals. Okay, so, so there. There are like, I'm the Sabian artist, and I'm a vapor artist. So that's the only things that I like, Okay, I use those brands. I was on a tour, like a couple of weeks ago, a short one with a with a band from town. And the only thing I brought was a snare, cymbal sticks and some hardware. And then I played on the on the kids and I had like,

Ari Gold

was in the town, you play that local kid? Yeah. Do you like that? Do you like to kind of surprise of not knowing what the kid's gonna sound like?

Ludvig Kennberg

Kind of. It's like a. And I think it's like, when I first started playing, I played in like the punk and hardcore scene. And that's the thing from there, I think. Right? Like, you just play whatever it is. You just got to you have to be able to give the audience a show, even though it's the bad drunk. It is not their fault.

Ari Gold

Yeah. Yeah, I did a show with my band. When we were playing like tiny stages and Eugene hoods from Gogol bordello, which was at that point, tiny little Ben, I think he lent us a symbol, although it might have been us lending him on, but I think he lent it to us. And we net my job and never gave it back. And then it became like a joke for a year or two when I've seen me like, What the fuck is my simple, if I remember correctly, unless we weren't. But you know, but yeah, we didn't care what we played. It's like, it's if you could hear yourself on stage, that was considered a miracle. And that was it. Yeah. So

Ludvig Kennberg

that was more fun to play at when you were a kid and you just played you didn't even like the like the the engineer asked you to do is soundcheck and I didn't know what a soundcheck was, right. I just went up and we started playing and the audience wasn't ready in the front of house wasn't ready, nobody was ready. We just started playing I think that was more fun.

Ari Gold

Yeah. And then I guess, you know, when a band starts playing for 10s, of 1000s of people, then it's a becomes like a very technical thing. I mean, you know, you could have like, you know, you have your ear in your in your headset, and then you have a backup headset on top of your ears. And then you have a click track that's running the keyboards just doing some backing tracks, and you have a couple of people monitoring that. It sounds to me so much like a almost like a, you know, sports, high level sports. Instead of music, like the level of like, extreme technicality that some of these big touring drummers deal with now. They'll say to me that, that, you know, over half of their brainpower is used on managing the technical, which is, wouldn't be my wouldn't be fun for me.

Ludvig Kennberg

No. Yeah, but you know, it's, I did, I did play drums for a band called dead soul. And that's the only time I've played with ghosts, because we open up for Ghost and unlike the Scandinavia to work. And that was more like that, more. Like, it became serious. And it was really, really fun. We were two drummers

Ari Gold

to on the stage on stage at the same time.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah. They'd still had two drummers. We were like, I think we were seven people on the stage at same time. And that was more like, that was like the first time I really got into the or got into I mean, it was it started to get serious. Like the whole thing. And I was always more nervous playing those shows, than just walking up on the stage and counting and then go rocking or whatever. I mean, it's more like there's a juggle,

Ari Gold

and at that point, you're like, you're, you're the cog in a wheel and it's hard to improvise if you wanted to change something in the middle of a song because you felt it you can't really know. You got to do it exactly how you've rehearsed it and how the machines that you connected to our programs to play with you.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah. But I don't say it was really, really fun to play with that band. I love playing with that band. But I think it's more fun now. Playing the band I'm playing with right now is more rare like we're three persons in the band. He plays guitar and sings and bass and it's me

Ari Gold

always has the flexibility you can you can really hear each other and change. What's

Ludvig Kennberg

it's called Marvala. Marvala. Yeah, like marble with that app. Okay, with two dots over there. Yeah, man. Yeah.

Ari Gold

So you're touring through Sweden right now? Are you gonna go elsewhere?

Ludvig Kennberg

No, we don't. We don't have any shows right now. During the summer, so I'm just having a vacation with my kids and my wife right now.

Ari Gold

Are you anywhere near the sea?

Ludvig Kennberg

And not right now. Lakes but yeah, I have a I have a lake at my next to my summer house. Okay, that's tiny. Like, it's lovely.

Ari Gold

Yeah. That sounds that sounds really nice.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, it's really nice. And it just surrounded by trees. And yeah, it's typical Swedish, tiny Lake.

Ari Gold

Wonderful. Yeah. How much do you think the the soul of Sweden is in in the ghost project?

Ludvig Kennberg

I think it was more in the beginning. Maybe now he's more? I don't know. I shouldn't answer that. I don't know. Really.

Ari Gold

The beginning implies something that was something in the Swedish experience that somehow was transmitted in the Opus.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, but that was more like, it felt more like a I don't say black metal, but more like that. I had that vibe. When I when we did the first album, it was going to be like, a typical Swedish classic album, which it is right now. But more the when we did the last time I was on pre cable. It felt like you could hear on the album that he has, that he had reads to like, the next level to a bigger audience and to the whole ghost machine is much bigger right now than it was.

Ari Gold

Right. Yeah, so and he likes that.

Ludvig Kennberg

I'm glad he likes it. Because he's a really really, really, really good songwriter, and a really, really good guy. And yeah, yeah, I love to work with him.

Ari Gold

Yeah. Cool. Well maybe we'll sign off with the hope that I can hear metadata negativo Yeah, doing and maybe you'll be on a ghost record soon if the call comes. Or when it comes. And I am jealous that you can jump in a lake right now. I guess. It's probably still still light out even though it's nine at night there Right? Probably still sunny. Yeah, it's sunny. Yeah. Does the sun want to see it? I want to know you can see the lake but you can you can see the room. I mean,

Ludvig Kennberg

but are you can't see the sun. Oh,

Ari Gold

sorry. No. Okay. Well, imagine you have a nice poster of linchpin as well as did see that.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, that's my, this is my mom's

Ari Gold

poster to design you

Ludvig Kennberg

know, a friend of mine called David ANR. He designed it and my mom bought it from him. I guess.

Ari Gold

It's like a just a poster celebrating the shipping.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, so the classic like the church and the big food store and yeah. burger place called. Stone Gabriel got to show up.

Ari Gold

Yeah, the tourist capital of the world. Yeah, everyone's coming to lynch shipping, to check

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, check out that song you gotta check. That's amazing burgers is my son's favorite place

Ari Gold

nice thanks to what do you say have no kicks you

Ludvig Kennberg

know I don't think so. Okay. They have a sharklet drink called pouco

Ari Gold

good Cool. Cool. Okay

Ludvig Kennberg

per and that that means also like damn ahead in Swedish

Ari Gold

who knows? Yeah okay well you happy happy almost midsummer we just a few days after midsummer but I send you my heartfelt respect for your your vibration and doing it vibration movement with my hand for those who are only listening Yes Did you feel like you could do comedy I feel like you belong in a Tim and Eric

Ludvig Kennberg

maybe I should do that. Tim and Eric the comedy thing

Ari Gold

Yeah, I think I think I think your next projects sample sample the sound of playing drumsticks gently against the sweetest words making jokes, making jokes sample the sound of jokes so you can hear yourself singing the jokes. Notes and then play with Swedish meatball mallets and just watch them watch the money come come in

Ludvig Kennberg

sound good? Good plant my summer

Ari Gold

okay, just send me 10% of all profits and I'll invest in IKEA

Ari Gold

Very nice to meet you. I you know if I'm if I travel a lot, so if I'm in Sweden, you're gonna get an annoying call from me and I'm gonna ask to swim in your lake.

Ludvig Kennberg

Yeah, yeah. You're welcome.

Ari Gold

Okay. You can swim in the East River here in New York. Good luck. Okay, well, very nice to meet you. And I'll catch you soon. Maybe. In Sweden. Yeah. Sweet sounds nicer may the force be with you?

Ludvig Kennberg

May the Fourth be wish.

Ari Gold

By all available sorry, one more question. Because I made a movie about here drummers called Adventures of power, which I think you can see on Amazon even in Sweden. If not, you can go to our drummer.com What is your favorite song to air drum to I forgot all History

Ludvig Kennberg

For Whom the Bell Tolls were the Metallica is you call that?

Ari Gold

Well, there is a Britain belt house by Metallica. Isn't that don't Oh, no. Right. Yeah. Okay. Well, so I have some air drumming videos to Metallica. But I have not yet done From The Bell Tolls. So maybe I'll add that to my repertoire for you. For you and Lars. Okay, we'll catch you later.

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